tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post2316385441071393598..comments2023-07-02T10:34:46.768-05:00Comments on Flag we love! Orange!: A founding father weighs inMenottihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18187833749161513155noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post-7624452221110869252007-12-04T01:11:00.000-05:002007-12-04T01:11:00.000-05:00I see a lot more of what you're saying. Thanks for...I see a lot more of what you're saying. Thanks for the clarification.<BR/><BR/>Like I said, I'm no longer a student, so I can only hope for the best for the section now that I'm gone. Being no stranger to the front row myself, I like to think I harassed and heckled (the other team) with the best of them, and I hope, as I am sure you do, that things will work themselves out in the section.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your response.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post-33408723615277026402007-12-04T01:05:00.000-05:002007-12-04T01:05:00.000-05:00Anon,I wish you would have posted as yourself inst...Anon,<BR/>I wish you would have posted as yourself instead of anonymous so I can understand some of the things you're referring to.<BR/><BR/>Anyways, if you reread the post, I did not claim for this to be my brainchild. But to say that it was "a concept that [I] had no part in coming up with" is untrue.<BR/><BR/>Maybe "founding father" wasn't a wise choice of words for a title, but it's shorter than "a person who feels they at least played some important part in the formulation of Otto's Army weighs in". Know what I mean?<BR/><BR/>It was a combination of a ideas put together by quite a few people, and I continue to thank and give credit to them. I am not laying claim to it being my idea, but I do feel that I was an important part of its beginnings (as early as Fall 2003), helped manage the first line processes, wrote and published the line processes to every season ticket holder, met with the Dome directors to allow us to camp outside the Dome (which was targeted for dismantling by them after a parent complaint), etc.<BR/><BR/>Of course it wasn't all me. I never said that and am not trying to take that credit. However, I feel that I did have a big part in it, and I don't think I am being elitist when trying to express the basic tenets and original goals of the group: promoting student spirit for athletics, working to change policy that affects students, and bettering the community through community service and improved relationships with them.<BR/><BR/>The most I can do is explain things through experience and hope that at least some of the ideas remain intact...<BR/>- The Hey Song is fun, but the school, media, and some of the community do not like it. They do tolerate it on occasion, though, so I'm just recommending against its constant use (we've been warned about it before). And besides, I think that using it less makes it more fun when that perfect moment arrives.<BR/>- I actually said in the post that I can't fault students for using the Dynasty sign.<BR/>- There is no "upper echelon" of Otto's Army. There are people who have volunteered their time and energy to be committee chairs, work with the media, and create programs to further the group.<BR/><BR/>I'm not trying to create any waves here and I hope I didn't insult anyone with my thoughts. All I know is that I had people call and text me after and during a couple of games saying that there's senseless fighting going on over some basic principles of OA, so I felt that the opinion of an alum who was at least around it all held value.<BR/><BR/>Thanks and keep up the good work. Remember, we're all workin towards the same goal. Go Orange!Menottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18187833749161513155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post-74562609236770610442007-12-03T22:23:00.000-05:002007-12-03T22:23:00.000-05:00Honestly, I think you're taking "your" brain child...Honestly, I think you're taking "your" brain child, otto's army, a concept that you had no part in coming up with (I know, because I did, back in 2004 if I remember correctly), a bit too seriously.<BR/><BR/>Fans will be fans. Some of them will do stupid things, most of them will not. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I have no problem with the players and fans throwing up the dynasty sign whenever the hell they want. If that helps the players to have more fun, and that helps them to win games, then all the better. If you haven't noticed, this team plays their best with huge grins plastered across their faces. So if the dynasty concept keeps them happy, I'll be throwing up my pseudo gang symbols all game long for them.<BR/><BR/>side note: I do agree with you about the school trying to cash in on the excitement, but what do you expect? College sports is, and always will be, a business. (Don't let them try to fool you)<BR/><BR/>Sadly, we alums can cry about this all we want, but the changes need to happen at the school, at every game. If people don't feel truly involved in otto's army, they're not going lose their voices cheering on the orange in the dome. Honestly, by calling yourselves founding fathers (what is this, a fraternity?), you're creating a wall between you and the lowly normal otto's army members. You can say the group isn't elitist, but it seems as though the upper echelon is.<BR/><BR/>Just some things to think about...Go Cuse! (Anyone else scare for singletary??)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post-3221356470856172732007-12-02T21:21:00.000-05:002007-12-02T21:21:00.000-05:00Great ideas Pat. I feel terrible that I can't pict...Great ideas Pat. I feel terrible that I can't picture your face even though I'm sure we spend a decent amount of time together waiting in line. Come down to the front row Saturday and let us know what we can do to help get some of your ideas off the ground. We're all "diseased" down there...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post-45043189190058355442007-12-02T14:47:00.000-05:002007-12-02T14:47:00.000-05:00I'm a huge fan of the SU basketball team. I don't ...I'm a huge fan of the SU basketball team. I don't usually get down to where most of you guys are by the front row, but I am usually pretty close to the court. I'm sure you'd recognize me if you saw me, I'm a loud and rowdy fan that is always screaming and heckling (the other team). <BR/><BR/>Anyways, it's getting sickening to see how our student section is performing. Sure, we get screwed over with the location of our seats and the opposition going away from us in the second half. But it's like church in the Dome at times. People turn around when I'm screaming at opposing players like I'm diseased. My behavior should be normal. I've always expressed my grievances about this (I used to write a column in the DO), but I figured it'd be good to take it to you guys.<BR/><BR/>There's no real reason to listen to me, but as a Senior and die hard fan i think i have some good opinions/ideas. <BR/><BR/>First of all, I agree with the Dynasty (which i still havent done seeing that we're 5-2) and the Hey Song. The song should be saved for rare occasions. <BR/><BR/>- We need something else to chant other than "Let's go Orange." We need to try to mainstream "here we go orange here we go" or something else. We could do a we are - clap clap- SU. I realize this is hilariously corny but hearing Lets Go Orange every possession is frustrating.<BR/><BR/>- Get the rest of the crowd involved. We were doing a GOOO, Orange to the rest of the crowd but we stopped. This gets them involved, which is important because those fans need some spurring on. Bring it back.<BR/><BR/>- We have to encourage more noise on defense, and organized chants against opposing players. Also, chanting bullshit after every call is absurd.<BR/><BR/>Now, I understand that these are changes that won't happen overnight. It's going to take time, and I probably won't be around to see it happen. But I think that we need to start encouraging this stuff. I've tried to do it up by me and i know that you guys can definitely get it started and spread. Sorry for the long rant, I just want to see Cuse get a legit homecourt advantage back. Let's get loud.<BR/><BR/>-Pat DiSalvoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899208663316813128.post-8307261816969531492007-12-02T10:38:00.000-05:002007-12-02T10:38:00.000-05:00Menotti, you really nailed the whole dynasty thing...Menotti, you really nailed the whole dynasty thing, it's all fun and games, but the fact that S.U. athletics supports it is kind outlandish. Also completely agree with you on the heckling.Jameson Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15467245041213392492noreply@blogger.com